tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22571319.post5958816074798060406..comments2023-06-18T10:03:39.982-05:00Comments on Gregorian Rants: Diversity at SIU - maybe their focus is on the wrong kind?PeterGhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13362919400474969329noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22571319.post-42452776889201793342007-05-29T17:07:00.000-05:002007-05-29T17:07:00.000-05:00Why can't we just leave racial, gender, sexual ori...Why can't we just leave racial, gender, sexual orientation questions off applications (and perhaps even names). Then, when the student arrives at siu, have the RA's (or bursar) take a second survey with these questions.<BR/><BR/>To borrow from politics:<BR/>I don't care if there's a "D" or "R" after your name so long as there is a "Q" for qualified.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22571319.post-46555598547522373392007-05-29T09:40:00.000-05:002007-05-29T09:40:00.000-05:00Amen, brother! On your point about blacks heading ...Amen, brother! <BR/><BR/>On your point about blacks heading into the public sector: There is a large literature on this point. The argument is that racial preferences didn't create a _net_ increase in black opportunities, rather it shifted blacks to the public sector (including government contractors). My own research on racial preferences found intense competition for qualified black professionals from the 1960s onward. <BR/><BR/>As you note, the problem is that it has become a new ghetto. 4% of all Ph.Ds go to African Americans but they are huddled in fields like education, social work, etc. -- all public-oriented. <BR/><BR/>On SIUC competing for skin color diversity: I have a black colleague from graduate school who was showered with tenure-track offers. She took a job at SIUE because it was the closest to the big city. Hell, if I had that many offers, I'd be at SIUE rather than SIUC too! (We're all part of the same system, right?). LOL.testing05401https://www.blogger.com/profile/17388846145377195962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22571319.post-55117160039140260362007-05-29T09:18:00.000-05:002007-05-29T09:18:00.000-05:00Cynical,What problems do evangelicals, political c...Cynical,<BR/><BR/>What problems do evangelicals, political conservatives, and "management types" face on campus? <BR/><BR/>I'm sure you aren't called a bad name when you're walking down the street because of what you look like or if you're feminine or masculine. <BR/><BR/>The religious right just settled a major lawsuit with SIU, and my tax money is going to be funding the Christian Student organization that is perfectly allowed to discriminate in leadership positions.<BR/><BR/>Sorry, but if anything, the groups you mentioned have not just equal rights, but special rights on campus. Stop complaining for nothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22571319.post-12858004178888323822007-05-28T17:19:00.000-05:002007-05-28T17:19:00.000-05:00I think we can all agree that diversity, as applie...I think we can all agree that diversity, as applied to Illinois politics, is pretty bogus. I was hoping to point out (once again) that SIU could do better, without working very hard.PeterGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13362919400474969329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22571319.post-50889167431168118322007-05-28T17:14:00.000-05:002007-05-28T17:14:00.000-05:00I agree, Peter, but "diversity" is pretty much all...I agree, Peter, but "diversity" is pretty much all about identity politics. The administration and the professors are only interested in promoting ethnic minorities, women, and to a lesser extent, gays. If you look at Fernando Treviño's publication record, it looks as if the new chancellor's only interest is latinos. And didn't he say something about "under-represented minorities?" I don't think he meant evangelicals, political conservatives, or management types.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22571319.post-36122570553324254342007-05-28T16:25:00.000-05:002007-05-28T16:25:00.000-05:00I agree with you Kyle about GLBT, there is clearly...I agree with you Kyle about GLBT, there is clearly something to learn from having a few gay friends. I recommend it. After checking a few times, many readers will be surprised that they don't have cooties. :) A good example of why our former Chancellor was a poor performer.<BR/><BR/>Give SIU some credit, historically (1950's, 1960's and even the 1970's) SIU has been one of the best places for a black person to go to college. There is a long history of SIU being an open university for people of all races. Just because all universities are chasing the black students now, that SIU welcomed without getting credit in the past, doesn't mean that SIU doesn't have a proud tradition in that regard. <BR/><BR/>It is a good sign to me that black students are no longer limited to the all black colleges and SIU, and are now mixing it up everywhere now. It shows that equal rights and racial quotas were a good thing.PeterGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13362919400474969329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22571319.post-36001436089090366752007-05-28T15:02:00.000-05:002007-05-28T15:02:00.000-05:00Peter, you are right. Diversity is based too much...Peter, you are right. Diversity is based too much upon what your skin color is like. We need to start thinking about performance, too. I do, however, think that the University has taken some steps in the right direction.<BR/><BR/>I guess the biggest example is the GLBT resource center is there to help attract gay students to a safe campus. If the former chancellor had this way, this program would not even have been in the making.<BR/><BR/>SIU prided itself on its diversity long before gay domestic partners were allowed equal housing rights as married couples, and they based it on one statistic: that they had more black people than Western and Eastern Illinois Universities. Big woop. That means nothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com